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MightyDragon 發表於 2012-11-10 10:45 PM

中國新隱形戰鬥機加劇了印度海軍的困境


除了前段一大堆的無根據印度式酸味十足的評論外,整篇文的主要重點在於瀋飛上月尾試飛的先進四代隱身戰鬥機上出現的雙前輪結構,被專家理解成這款戰鬥機有上艦的可能性。這使印度人先前沾沾自喜以為買入的MIG-29K可在性能上壓過中國艦載機殲-15的幻覺一下子全滅,心情像由天堂跌到地獄 ;P











Source: Business Standard                  Saturday, Nov 10, 2012
Original Title:  New Chinese stealth fighter heightens dilemma for Indian Navy
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi Nov 10, 2012, 00:45 IST

Indian Navy? 45 Russian MiG-29Ks are capable fighters, but they will be outclassed by stealthy J-31 when it enters service

Was last week’s inaugural flight of China’s second stealth fighter linked to the ongoing 18th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party? Was President Hu Jintao demonstrating his relationship with the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), a powerful lever for elevating his protégés to the apex Politburo Standing Committee?

Several unanswered questions surround the October 31 debut of the J-31 Shenyang fighter, which the pathologically secretive PLA took unusual pains to publicise. Having already unveiled the J-20 Chengdu stealth fighter in January 2011, China is the only country that is developing two separate stealth fighters. The US is developing the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, albeit in three versions; Russia is working on a single design, the PAK-FA, to which India has hitched its wagon. Separately, Japan is developing the ATD-X demonstrator.

Other intriguing questions include: Given the J-31’s close resemblance to the US F-35 fighter, has China reverse-engineered it from blueprints that Lockheed Martin had reported stolen in 2009 from the computers of six American aerospace subcontractors? Is the J-31 for export only, which would explain the publicity that the PLA is giving it? Or will the PLA use the J-31 as an air superiority fighter while the larger J-20 strikes ground targets, an allocation of roles that mirrors the employment of the F-22 Raptor and the F-35 by the US Air Force? Or is the F-31 a competitor to the J-20, with the better of the two designs destined to go into production?

But the question that most worries the Indian Navy is: does the sturdy landing gear that experts have spotted on the J-31 indicate that the new fighter will operate from Chinese aircraft carriers, giving the PLA Navy, or PLA(N), an aerial combat capability that would outmuscle India’s in the Indian Ocean?

China is focusing keenly on naval air power. Just a month ago China’s first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, had joined the PLA(N) fleet. The 58,500-tonne Liaoning — bought as scrap from Ukraine for a floating casino, but then renovated in Dalian shipyard into an operational carrier — is the PLA(N)’s first attempt at learning the complex skills of aircraft carrier operations. This is difficult learning. The US Navy lost some 12,000 aircraft and 8,500 airmen from 1949-1988 in developing its naval aviation skills. But Indian planners believe the Chinese will learn quickly, especially when the Liaoning is joined by more modern aircraft carriers that are already being built in China.

Indian Navy planners tell Business Standard that the PLA(N)’s three-pronged process — learning aircraft carrier operations; building one or two modern carriers; and inducting the J-31 — could take a decade or more. But after that, PLA(N) aircraft carrier battle groups could operate in the Indian Ocean, fielding fighters that are superior to India’s.

The Indian Navy’s 45 Russian MiG-29Ks, purchased for two new aircraft carriers, are capable fighters today, but would certainly be outclassed by the stealthy J-31 whenever it enters service. The navy’s new carriers — the 44,000-tonne INS Vikramaditya that could join the fleet next year; and the unnamed, 40,000-tonne Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) that will be ready only by 2017 — are both fitted with ski-jumps that are custom-built for the MiG-29K to take off.

If the navy wants a more capable fighter, e.g. the Dassault Rafale, which the Indian Air Force is buying, or the F-35C, which is the naval version of the Joint Strike Fighter, it will need an aircraft carrier with a catapult rather than a ski-jump. If the navy designs its second IAC (a 60,000-tonne vessel that is still being conceptualised) with a catapult on the flight deck, a fifth-generation stealth fighter could soon follow.

The navy has already signaled such an interest. In 2006, and again in 2007, New Delhi asked Lockheed Martin (which runs the F-35 programme) for briefings on the F-35B, a short take off and vertical landing (STOVL) variant that the US Marine Corps will fly off its smaller aircraft carriers called Landing Helicopter Docks. While the F-35B could operate from a ski-jump, the F-35C needs a catapult to propel it off the flight deck.

Will the J-31 push the navy towards more advanced fighters and a second IAC with catapult assisted launch? All options remain on the table. Then naval chief, Admiral Nirmal Verma, speaking in Delhi on August 7 shortly before he retired, did not rule out “having an entirely different carrier with a different complement of aircraft.”

That decision, however, would be a difficult one, keeping in mind that two carriers would already be fielding the MiG-29K, and a new fighter would complicate training and logistics.

“I can’t rule out anything or rule in anything. It is something at the concept stage and it will take a couple of years before we firm up our ideas on this,” said Admiral Verma.

The navy’s eyes will be focused on the Zhuhai Air Show, in China, in mid-November for more details that might emerge about China’s new stealth fighter.
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yastern 發表於 2012-11-10 11:15 PM

印度就算m-29k對上j-15也沒什麼勝算 中國遼寧艦正常裝備最少可以裝載30架戰機或其它機種 如航母艦對航母艦印度數量上就輸了

carl1124 發表於 2012-11-11 12:09 AM

中國怎麼讓,何國何地困境的這種文章標提
這種文章,不管是在危言聳聽或是炫耀
我只看到的是,中國的敵人越來越多
中國周邊快要沒有邦交國了......

vqben 發表於 2012-11-11 12:38 AM

carl1124 發表於 2012-11-11 12:09 AM static/image/common/back.gif
中國怎麼讓,何國何地困境的這種文章標提
這種文章,不管是在危言聳聽或是炫耀
我只看到的是,中國的敵人越來 ...

國力越來越强,自然遭人眼紅妒忌也越來越多,不過真正强到超越美國,估計朋友就會越來越多,國家和個人一樣,都是嫌貧愛富.至于邦交國,倒是大陸越來越多,台灣越來越少,要不是為,外交休兵和為台灣的面子,估計台灣最后那几個邦交小國也早就倒戈到大陸了(曾和大陸私下聯系要求建交,考慮到對台關系,暫時被大陸擱置)...<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容,請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div>

白蓮梵天 發表於 2012-11-11 12:45 AM

拜託距離殲31可以生產跟服役還有好幾年耶
再加上如果真是的航母鑑載機
我看最快也要5年才可以真正成為戰力<br><br><br><br><br><div></div>

sunlife123 發表於 2012-11-11 01:40 AM

別的不說 高山的cg真厲害 漂亮的沒話說

josephchu 發表於 2012-11-11 09:55 AM

航母機載能力可能都還未定吧....
有航母+隱形戰機.....印度搞不好一次同時發射多枚航母殺手也未必會輸~~~
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